{"id":3102,"date":"2021-08-06T05:37:08","date_gmt":"2021-08-06T10:37:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/?p=3102"},"modified":"2021-08-09T07:09:13","modified_gmt":"2021-08-09T12:09:13","slug":"blog-pcr-questions-when-does-style-become-gimmick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/?p=3102","title":{"rendered":"[BLOG] PCR questions &#8220;When does &#8216;style&#8217; become &#8216;gimmick&#8217;?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey Somethings, PCR here.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I&#8217;ve had something rolling around in my brain ever since we did our &#8220;Hateful 8&#8221; episode that we&#8217;ve joked\u00a0about on a few occasions, but never really dove in to, and that is&#8230; &#8220;When does Style become Gimmick?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of directors that have a certain &#8220;style&#8221;, but I feel many of them lean on that style so much that they become a parody of themselves and their movies no longer feel like &#8220;A movie directed by&#8230;&#8221; as much as they feel like &#8220;A movie done in the style of&#8230;&#8221;.\u00a0 Here is a list of my biggest offenders.<\/p>\n<p><b>Tim Burton<br \/>\n<\/b><br \/>\nYou knew he was going to be on this list.\u00a0 He&#8217;s shown he can indeed use more than 4 colors (Big Fish, Pee Wee&#8217;s Big Adventure, Mars Attacks!&#8230;) but he&#8217;s most well known for his &#8216;gothic fantasy&#8217; color palette as seen in &#8220;Batman&#8221;, &#8220;Sweeny Todd&#8221;, &#8220;Sleepy Hollow&#8221; and many MANY many others.\u00a0 Even &#8220;Alice in Wonderland&#8221; and &#8220;Charlie and the Chocolate Factory&#8221; felt like instead of making a regular movie Tim Burton said &#8220;WHAT IF&#8230; I use a LOT of colors???&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><b>M. Night Shyamalan<\/b><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Sure, &#8220;The 6th Sense&#8221; put him on the map for most people, and &#8220;Unbreakable&#8221; was great&#8230; &#8220;Signs&#8221; and &#8220;The Village&#8221; turned him into &#8220;the twist ending guy&#8221;.\u00a0 Now, I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s because he felt if he ever did a movie without one people would turn on him for not doing &#8216;his thing&#8217;, but the name that used to put asses in seats became a bit of a punchline for a while.\u00a0 I remember seeing a trailer for &#8220;Devil&#8221; in the theaters, and the crowd was very into it&#8230; until the screen showed &#8220;&#8230;a movie by M. Night Shyamalan&#8221; and the place erupted in boos.\u00a0 To his credit, perhaps the most self aware he&#8217;s been of his &#8216;gimmick&#8217; is when he backed out from doing &#8220;Life of Pi&#8221; stating&#8230;\u00a0 &#8220;<span style=\"font-family: arial, sans-serif;\">I\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0was hesitant because the book has kind of a twist ending. And I was concerned that as soon as you put my name on it, everybody would have a different experience. Whereas if someone else did it, it would be much more satisfying, I think. Expectations, you&#8217;ve got to be aware of them&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><b>Michael Bay<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The man who brought you &#8220;Bad Boys II&#8221;, &#8220;Transformers&#8221;, &#8220;The Rock&#8221; and &#8220;Armageddon&#8221; has also brought you metric fucktons of explosions, and throws around Dutch Angles like JJ Abrams uses lense flare.\u00a0 \u00a0Now, I&#8217;ll freely admit, I really enjoy Bad Boys II, and seeing that felt he&#8217;d be a great director for Transformers (and I still don&#8217;t think I was wrong when the first movie is discussed), but it&#8217;s like he started becoming a superfan of his own work and &#8220;Baysplosions&#8221; were really a thing.\u00a0 \u00a0Still, as bad and campy as they may be, most of them are still amazingly fun, and when Epic Rap Battles of History riffs on you, you&#8217;ve certainly put a mark on pop culture.<\/p>\n<p><b>Quentin Tarantino<\/b><\/p>\n<p>In my opinion, the worst of the bunch when it comes to &#8216;Style as Gimmick&#8221; because it&#8217;s the most egregious.\u00a0 Tarantino has an eye for cinematography for sure, but it&#8217;s his scripting and language that, to me, have become problematic.\u00a0 While &#8220;Reservoir Dogs&#8221; and &#8220;Pulp Fiction&#8221; made him a name when it comes to great conversational scenes and dialogue, &#8220;Jackie Brown&#8221;, &#8220;Django Unchained&#8221; and more recently &#8220;Hateful 8&#8221; felt like he was going out of his way to be controversial when it comes to the use (and sometimes HEAVY use) of certain words (which won&#8217;t even be alluded to here&#8230; you know which one I&#8217;m talking about).\u00a0 I&#8217;m not a &#8216;feet&#8217; guy, but I&#8217;d have rather sat through 20 different shots of Quention licking toes than the nearly 50 times &#8220;that word&#8221; is used in &#8220;Hateful 8&#8221; (which is still less than half the number of times it was used in &#8220;Django&#8221;).\u00a0 Now, there are people who defend his use of that language in his films (most notably, Samuel L. Jackson), but in my opinion, if you&#8217;re specifically using a word or language for no other reason than to make your viewing audience uncomfortable watching it, then it&#8217;s a crutch and only being done gratuitously.<\/p>\n<div class=\"yj6qo\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey Somethings, PCR here.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I&#8217;ve had something rolling around in my brain ever since we did our &#8220;Hateful 8&#8221; episode that we&#8217;ve joked\u00a0about on a few occasions, but never really dove in to, and that is&#8230; &#8220;When does Style become Gimmick?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of directors that have a certain &#8220;style&#8221;, but I feel many of them lean on that style so much that they become a parody of themselves and their movies no longer feel like &#8220;A movie directed by&#8230;&#8221; as much as they feel like &#8220;A movie done in the style of&#8230;&#8221;.\u00a0 Here is a list of my biggest offenders.<\/p>\n<p><b>Tim Burton<br \/>\n<\/b><br \/>\nYou knew he was going to be on this list.\u00a0 He&#8217;s shown he can indeed use more than 4 colors (Big Fish, Pee Wee&#8217;s Big Adventure, Mars Attacks!&#8230;) but he&#8217;s most well known for his &#8216;gothic fantasy&#8217; color palette as seen in &#8220;Batman&#8221;, &#8220;Sweeny Todd&#8221;, &#8220;Sleepy Hollow&#8221; and many MANY many others.\u00a0 Even &#8220;Alice in Wonderland&#8221; and &#8220;Charlie and the Chocolate Factory&#8221; felt like instead of making a regular movie Tim Burton said &#8220;WHAT IF&#8230; I use a LOT of colors???&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><b>M. Night Shyamalan<\/b><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Sure, &#8220;The 6th Sense&#8221; put him on the map for most people, and &#8220;Unbreakable&#8221; was great&#8230; &#8220;Signs&#8221; and &#8220;The Village&#8221; turned him into &#8220;the twist ending guy&#8221;.\u00a0 Now, I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s because he felt if he ever did a movie without one people would turn on him for not doing &#8216;his thing&#8217;, but the name that used to put asses in seats became a bit of a punchline for a while.\u00a0 I remember seeing a trailer for &#8220;Devil&#8221; in the theaters, and the crowd was very into it&#8230; until the screen showed &#8220;&#8230;a movie by M. Night Shyamalan&#8221; and the place erupted in boos.\u00a0 To his credit, perhaps the most self aware he&#8217;s been of his &#8216;gimmick&#8217; is when he backed out from doing &#8220;Life of Pi&#8221; stating&#8230;\u00a0 &#8220;<span style=\"font-family: arial, sans-serif;\">I\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0was hesitant because the book has kind of a twist ending. And I was concerned that as soon as you put my name on it, everybody would have a different experience. Whereas if someone else did it, it would be much more satisfying, I think. Expectations, you&#8217;ve got to be aware of them&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><b>Michael Bay<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The man who brought you &#8220;Bad Boys II&#8221;, &#8220;Transformers&#8221;, &#8220;The Rock&#8221; and &#8220;Armageddon&#8221; has also brought you metric fucktons of explosions, and throws around Dutch Angles like JJ Abrams uses lense flare.\u00a0 \u00a0Now, I&#8217;ll freely admit, I really enjoy Bad Boys II, and seeing that felt he&#8217;d be a great director for Transformers (and I still don&#8217;t think I was wrong when the first movie is discussed), but it&#8217;s like he started becoming a superfan of his own work and &#8220;Baysplosions&#8221; were really a thing.\u00a0 \u00a0Still, as bad and campy as they may be, most of them are still amazingly fun, and when Epic Rap Battles of History riffs on you, you&#8217;ve certainly put a mark on pop culture.<\/p>\n<p><b>Quentin Tarantino<\/b><\/p>\n<p>In my opinion, the worst of the bunch when it comes to &#8216;Style as Gimmick&#8221; because it&#8217;s the most egregious.\u00a0 Tarantino has an eye for cinematography for sure, but it&#8217;s his scripting and language that, to me, have become problematic.\u00a0 While &#8220;Reservoir Dogs&#8221; and &#8220;Pulp Fiction&#8221; made him a name when it comes to great conversational scenes and dialogue, &#8220;Jackie Brown&#8221;, &#8220;Django Unchained&#8221; and more recently &#8220;Hateful 8&#8221; felt like he was going out of his way to be controversial when it comes to the use (and sometimes HEAVY use) of certain words (which won&#8217;t even be alluded to here&#8230; you know which one I&#8217;m talking about).\u00a0 I&#8217;m not a &#8216;feet&#8217; guy, but I&#8217;d have rather sat through 20 different shots of Quention licking toes than the nearly 50 times &#8220;that word&#8221; is used in &#8220;Hateful 8&#8221; (which is still less than half the number of times it was used in &#8220;Django&#8221;).\u00a0 Now, there are people who defend his use of that language in his films (most notably, Samuel L. Jackson), but in my opinion, if you&#8217;re specifically using a word or language for no other reason than to make your viewing audience uncomfortable watching it, then it&#8217;s a crutch and only being done gratuitously.<\/p>\n<div class=\"yj6qo\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2585,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[215,1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3102"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3102"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3102\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3103,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3102\/revisions\/3103"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/2585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3102"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3102"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somethingcast.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3102"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}